[MLUG] Cloud Computing

[Alexandre Blanc]

Well, just to tell you i totally agree with those considerations !

Just wanted to say that i focused on the job market impact of the
question, not on the fact that of course, you totally loose the control
of your systems using any cloud like applications or system.

My own conviction is that we have to keep the maximum control the
applications and datas we care about.

In fact, as we are on a LUG ML, i think most of us will rather manage
their own systems than "puting" anything somewhere we'll ever know who's
gonna do what, and what could happen if anything happens too.

Alexandre BLANC



Le mardi 05 avril 2011 à 13:34 -0400, David Montminy a écrit :
> My experience tells me that in terms of jobs, nothing is really 'saved'. 
> The MS Office VBA developper is now doing Javascript on Google App 
> Scripts, and the sysadmin still has to manage the accounts and 
> permissions for the entire staff, even if the server is not "owned" by 
> the company.
> 
> The cloud is mostly useful for small company. For a large enough 
> enterprise, some questions start to arise like:
> -Do you really own your e-mails?
> -Can you be affected by a laws outside your juridiction?
> -What happens in case of a compromised server? (like the Epsilon case 
> currently in the news)
> -What do you do if they decide to shut down the service?
> 
> Things like Amazon EC2 and Google App are great for any starting company 
> but I doubt that very big business will move entirely to the cloud.... 
> unless they own that cloud of course :)
> 
> David Montminy
> 
> On 05/04/2011 1:19 PM, Alexandre Blanc wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > IMHO, i'd say that the cloud is not a real problem and won't drop
> > sysadmin jobs, at the end (maybe some managers think they'll save some
> > money this way, but won't last).
> >
> > Cloud allow basically to share hardware resources that you don't have to
> > maintain (but somebody still has to do the job...), and the installed
> > systems on those, still have to be maintained (still need a sysadmin!).
> >
> > There's also the fact that it's much more complicated to keep the
> > control on the processes, on the confidentiality and more.
> >
> > A last point, even if "shops" move to the cloud, they still need a local
> > network and clients (even thin clients) to access and manage the datas.
> > So, sysadmins still have to keep all of this connected together.
> >
> > We'll see in the very next future, but, my guess is that sysadmin will
> > still be needed wherever there's something about using any kind of
> > computers, and network.
> >
> > Alexandre BLANC (Sysadmin / Netadmin)
> >
> >
> >
> > Le mardi 05 avril 2011 à 09:42 -0700, Leslie S Satenstein a écrit :
> >> With many shops moving to the cloud, what is the impact to the
> >> system-maintainer / system-administrator?  Will there be a drop in
> >> jobs?
> >>
> >> Would you recommend a person, as a good career, study to be a
> >> sysadmin?
> >>
> >> Maybe my question belongs on Facebook, but then too much spam.
> >>
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> >>   Leslie
> >>
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