[MLUG] Fedora 15 ideosynchracies.
Alexandre Blanc
alexandre at inforeseau.com
Fri Apr 29 23:06:36 EDT 2011
Hi, just my advice reading that, i totally agree regarding the GUI
evolution, that designers lost the productivity focus in order to match
the ipad style, making your desktop look more like movies than a working
environment.
But, i'm a bit surprised regarding the fact that you open a root session
in graphical mode! gloups! sig....
Just in case, if you need sometime to drag and drop with root
permission, you may 'su' in the console (in fedora), or, 'sudo bash' (in
ubuntu), and then launch an file explorer like "nautilus" (just type
"nautilus" without the quotes and press enter) and you'll be able to
copy what you want wherever you want using a root process, and close it
as soon as you're done.
This may be less dangerous than opening a root session, which means
using a browser as root (in many other considérations), which means any
access to you computer is a root access. That really really bad.
Hope you'll take my advice in consideration for your own computer
safety. By the way, you may read this blog
http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/ (Invisible things labs), and get
a bit concerned regarding security. There's enough security issues using
a browser today, to look for "computer suicide" using a root session ;)
Opening a root GUI is just playing with evil on your machine ;)
Best regards,
Alexandre
Le vendredi 29 avril 2011 à 19:48 -0700, Leslie S Satenstein a écrit :
> I have been using Fedora since 2005. In the past two years, it has
> always been stable, worked well, was efficient, and enjoyable to use.
> Gnome was always getting better and better.
>
> Somewhere along the way, Gnome and other GUIs got enamoured with the
> IPAD interface. This is great for occasional users, who like to spin
> wheels.
>
> But if you are a developer, who uses netbeans, eclipse, or other
> similar products, you really want a desktop environment.
> If you are root, unlike those who block all accesses, the root logon
> is great for marking and dragging, or doing drag and drop activities.
> For many maintenance activities, it is faster in management tto do it
> with a good GUI interface, than with a series of manual command line
> efforts. That is why I stay with Fedora.
>
> Gnome will probably return to supporting both the legacy environment,
> and the new one. At least I hope so. It would be foolish to abandon a
> legacy interface, and lose all we developer's who also find bugs in
> new products.
>
> I do not use Fedora for production, but look to it for new functions
> that could be interesting for our product(s). We have data encryption
> products for all the platforms mentioned. Some are smart card based,
> Some can support thousands of users, each with a distinct access code.
>
> Please forgive my pontifications.
>
> ------------------
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Leslie
>
> Mr. Leslie Satenstein
> 40 years in IT and going strong.
> Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
> and tomorrow will be even better.
>
> mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com
> alternative: leslie.satenstein at itbms.biz
> www.itbms.biz
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/28/11, aaron d <instantkamera at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: aaron d <instantkamera at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MLUG] Fedora 15 ideosynchracies.
> To: "Montreal Linux Users Group" <mlug at listserv.mlug.ca>
> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 11:22 PM
>
> Just go back to gnome 2 if that is what you want, or better
> still, use xfce. They have no intention of leaving fallback
> mode as an option down the road (at least not in such an easy
> to enable setting), so if you don't like it, you are better
> off finding a more viable long-term solution. Xfce is very
> mature, lightweight, simple and has excellent tools that work
> every bit as well as the gnome2 counterparts. It also looks
> and functions almost exactly the same.
>
> Aaron
>
> On Apr 28, 2011 1:06 PM, "Leslie S Satenstein"
> <lsatenstein at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi Cyrl,
> >
> > I am using the fallback option. (System tools, graphics on).
> I find a waste of time to use the standard interface. But
> there is a complete set of functions that are missing.
> >
> > Switch to the graphics option, right click on applications,
> and you should have alacarte running. The very bottom entry
> is system. Inside of system are a group of applications and
> sub-applications. One of them is screen saver.
> >
> > It is not in the (right click under your name option). In
> fact, it is not reachable via GUI
> >
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > Regards
> > Leslie
> > Mr. Leslie Satenstein
> > 40 years in IT and going strong.
> > Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
> > and tomorrow will be even better.
> >
> > mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com
> > alternative: leslie.satenstein at itbms.biz
> > www.itbms.biz
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 4/28/11, Cyril Arnaud <cyril.arnaud at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Cyril Arnaud <cyril.arnaud at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MLUG] Fedora 15 ideosynchracies.
> > To: "Montreal Linux Users Group" <mlug at listserv.mlug.ca>
> > Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 11:41 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In Gnome 3 there are no panels.
> >
> > The menu is replaced by the activity overview (top left hot
> corner or Super key), the System menu is hidden under your
> name (top right corner).
> >
> > The desktops are added automagically and when the desktop is
> empty it disappear ...
> >
> > I know it's confusing :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 17:06 -0700, Leslie S Satenstein
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I added alacarte to Fedora15, which allows me to edit menus.
> I followed Jérome's advice and reverted to the "graphics off
> mode". This allowed me to set 4 desktops.
> >
> >
> >
> > With alacarte installed (perhaps I did not need to install
> it), I right-click on the Applications menu, and it opens for
> editing.
> >
> >
> >
> > The alacarte editor shows a final menu entry titled system.
> However, System is not shown on the dropdown menu. I have not
> found a way to force system to appear.
> >
> >
> >
> > The second bizzare situation is dragging an application to
> the panel. Once on the panel, one cannot remove it. There
> does not appear to be a way to add/remove panels. There is a
> panel application, but it fails to run after starting.
> >
> >
> >
> > I want the system menu, as one submenu within system is
> preferences.
> >
> >
> >
> > Preferences allows me to setup the screensaver, manage
> sound, software updates, etc...
> >
> > Someone has cut the menu to be 1 entry short.
> >
> >
> >
> > Did I fail to find an alternate path to the screensaver.
> Screensaver does not appear as well, in the new gnome3 "all on
> the desktop" format.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Leslie
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr. Leslie Satenstein
> >
> > 40 years in IT and going strong.
> >
> > Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
> >
> > and tomorrow will be even better.
> >
> >
> >
> > mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com
> >
> > alternative: leslie.satenstein at itbms.biz
> >
> > www.itbms.biz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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