[MLUG] Fedora 15 ideosynchracies.

Fri Apr 29 22:48:35 EDT 2011

I have been using Fedora since 2005. In the past two years, it has always been stable, worked well, was efficient, and enjoyable to use.  Gnome was always getting better and better.

Somewhere along the way, Gnome and other GUIs got enamoured with the IPAD interface.  This is great for occasional users, who like to spin wheels.

But if you are a developer, who uses netbeans, eclipse, or other similar products, you really want a desktop environment.  
If you are root, unlike those who block all accesses,  the root logon is great for marking and dragging, or doing drag and drop activities.  For many maintenance activities, it is faster in management tto do it with a good GUI interface, than with a series of manual command line efforts.  That is why I
 stay with Fedora.

Gnome will probably return to supporting both the legacy environment, and the new one. At least I hope so.  It would be foolish to abandon a legacy interface, and lose all we developer's who also find bugs in new products.  

I do not use Fedora for production, but look to it for new functions that could be interesting for our product(s).  We have data encryption products for all the platforms mentioned. Some are smart card based,  Some can support thousands of users, each with a distinct access code.

Please forgive my pontifications.

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Regards  
 Leslie
 Mr. Leslie Satenstein
40 years in IT and going strong.
Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
and tomorrow will be even better.

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--- On Thu, 4/28/11, aaron d <instantkamera at gmail.com> wrote:

From: aaron d <instantkamera at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MLUG] Fedora 15 ideosynchracies.
To: "Montreal Linux Users Group" <mlug at listserv.mlug.ca>
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 11:22 PM

Just go back to gnome 2 if that is what
 you want, or better still, use xfce. They have no intention of leaving fallback mode as an option down the road (at least not in such an easy to enable setting), so if you don't like it, you are better off finding a more viable long-term solution. Xfce is very mature, lightweight, simple and has excellent tools that work every bit as well as the gnome2 counterparts. It also looks and functions almost exactly the same.

Aaron
On Apr 28, 2011 1:06 PM, "Leslie S Satenstein" <lsatenstein at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Cyrl,
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> I am using the fallback option. (System tools, graphics on).  I find a waste of time to use the standard interface.  But there is a complete set of functions that are missing.

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> Switch to the graphics option, right click on applications, and you should have alacarte running.  The very bottom entry is system.  Inside of system are a group of applications and sub-applications.  One of them is screen saver.

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> It is not in the (right click under your name option).  In fact, it is not reachable via GUI
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> Regards  
>  Leslie
>  Mr. Leslie Satenstein

> 40 years in IT and going strong.
> Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
> and tomorrow will be even better.
>  
> mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com

> alternative: leslie.satenstein at itbms.biz 
> www.itbms.biz  
>  
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/28/11, Cyril Arnaud <cyril.arnaud at gmail.com> wrote:

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> From: Cyril Arnaud <cyril.arnaud at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MLUG] Fedora 15 ideosynchracies.
> To: "Montreal Linux Users Group" <mlug at listserv.mlug.ca>

> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 11:41 AM
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> In Gnome 3 there are no panels.
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> The menu is replaced by the activity overview (top left hot corner or Super key), the System menu is hidden under your name (top right corner).

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> The desktops are added automagically and when the desktop is empty it disappear ...
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> I know it's confusing :)
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> On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 17:06 -0700, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:

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> I added alacarte to Fedora15, which allows me to edit menus. I followed Jérome's advice and reverted to the "graphics off mode". This allowed me to set 4 desktops.

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> With alacarte installed (perhaps I did not need to install it), I right-click on the Applications menu, and it opens for editing.
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> The alacarte editor shows a final menu entry titled system.  However, System is not shown on the dropdown menu.  I have not found a way to force system to appear.

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> The second bizzare situation is dragging an application to the panel. Once on the panel, one cannot remove it.  There does not appear to be a way to add/remove panels.  There is a panel application, but it fails to run after starting.

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> I want the system menu, as one submenu within system is preferences.
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> Preferences allows me to setup the screensaver, manage sound, software updates, etc...

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> Someone has cut the menu to be 1 entry short.
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> Did I fail to find an alternate path to the screensaver. Screensaver does not appear as well, in the new gnome3 "all on the desktop" format.

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> Regards
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> Mr. Leslie Satenstein
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> 40 years in IT and going strong.
> 
> Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
> 
> and tomorrow will be even better.
> 

>  
> 
> mailto:lsatenstein at yahoo.com
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> alternative: leslie.satenstein at itbms.biz 
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> www.itbms.biz  

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