[MLUG] Fedora 15 ideosynchracies.

[Leslie S Satenstein]

Hi Aaron

I have xfce installed after yesterday's discussion. It is good.  I am cautioned to use sudo, and by the way, for simple stuff, such as installing software, or modifying a parameter in /etc, I do use sudo.   example sudo yum install xyz,  sudo vim xyz.conf.


But sometimes I want to do a selective delete of many files. This is more easily done with a GUI interface.  (Sort, tag delete).

If I was on a multi user server, I would agree with everyone about the dangers, especially as long as someone knew when I was on the system in root, 

With sudo, I may be on an X terminal which would be after hours when I am certain I am alone. The comment that everyone pointed out to me is, X is dangerous.  So sudo to an X terminal is dangerous too.

After hours, If it is critical, I would also disable networking for the maintenance I do.   
Guys, I don't work consistently with root, but do use it in GUI mode for file and some application cleanups.
   
If developers have to leave gnome to have desktops, they will also leave that distribution. I have XFCE and it is fast, snappy and meets a developers requirements.  I am slowly moving to it. It is just a force to break old habits. 

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 Leslie
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--- On Sat, 4/30/11, aaron d <instantkamera at gmail.com> wrote:

From: aaron d <instantkamera at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MLUG] Fedora 15 ideosynchracies.
To: "Montreal Linux Users Group" <mlug at listserv.mlug.ca>
Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 12:46 AM

You missed the point. He was saying you can use sudo to escalate the privileges of ONE graphical process, a significantly safer proposition than logging into and entire GUI session as root, not to mention being less of a waste of time.

It has been stated on a few wikis that the fallback option for GNOME3 is only a temporary measure; they intend to have the system make the decision for you. Again, have a look at xfce, you may like what you see.

Aaron 

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Leslie S Satenstein <lsatenstein at yahoo.com> wrote:

Just for the record. When I enable the Root Access, I make certain to not use either any browser or email program.


One thing that I find difficult to understand is this.  I do a sudo command and what it gives me is command line access.  One slip of a rm rf command and that file is doomed.
With GUI, I have a choice to delete or more to trash.  In GUI, and in Root, I empty trash before exiting.  


So far, I can truthfully say that using Root GUI for many root activities is safer than using sudo commands.  

In closing, just as the danger exists in using sudo to do root commands, there is a (smaller) danger in doing maintenance from the GUI interface.  


Renames, moving files from directory to directory, sorting a directory by date and handling older files, or sorting by type and handling those files is soo
 much easier in GUI mode.
Time is money and GUI access takes less human time. 

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Regards  
 Leslie
 Mr. Leslie Satenstein

40 years in IT and going strong.
Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
and tomorrow will be even better.
 

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